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Harvard Business School 30 Years Later: Bring Back Joe

by Charles H. Green on Sunday, October 15, 2006 (post #2)


I attended my 30th reunion at Harvard Business School 2 weeks ago.

I learned some trivia; e.g. the only student from the prior year (class of 1975) who took his graduation picture without wearing a tie was one George W. Bush.

More importantly—the changes in HBS are a reflection of the changes business in general took in the last 3 decades. They don’t bode well for trust, at the individual, corporate or socio-economic level.

30 years ago, HBS viewed itself and was viewed as graduating leaders of industry. Management consulting and investment banking together were the “hot” new segments in which graduates took jobs, rather than traditional industry.

30 years ago, there were a limited number of courses, with emphasis put on cross-referencing concepts among the courses. Many of the faculty had significant business experience.

And 30 years ago, most cases (remember, HBS uses the case method) personalized the manager’s role. They’d begin with something like, “As Joe gulped down his first coffee, he pondered the situation of…” and ended with, “What should Joe do? What would you do?”
3 cases a day, 5 days a week, for two years, this was the intensely pragmatic lesson HBS taught: what’s the problem, and what should you do about it?

30 years later, the percentage of graduates going to consulting, investment banking and private equity is up quite a bit—a third or more. More interestingly, the sources of incoming students are parallel—about a third now come from those same investment banks and consulting firms.

Today, HBS offers many more courses, but they are more stand-alone, with less cross-referencing—the experience is less integrated. Faculty are more likely to be professional academics—and not with degrees in business, but in other disciplines. They are less likely to have business experience.

But most interesting, Joe is reportedly gone from the cases. In his place? Structural analyses—of competitive power, economics, strategies.

HBS is a microcosm. Its view of business is less about commerce, more about competition. Less about managers, more about management. Less about relationships, more about systems and processes.

Business itself remains much the same—except for the MBAs and exec ed graduates who are being trained to believe it can be conducted through mental constructs, rather than through human interactions.

The academicization of business has been critiqued before by Warren Bennis and James O’Toole in Harvard Business Review (How Business Schools Lost Their Way, May 2005). What has gone unnoticed is that the world is starting to go in precisely the opposite way.

The biggest single characteristic of business in future is that everything is getting connected. In a connected world, a focus on competitive relationships isn’t useful. What we need is an emphasis on connectivity, trust and collaboration.

HBS needs to teach less competitive differentiation and more collaborative value-adding; less how to win supply chain negotiations and more how everyone gains by operating them as a system; less about transactions, more about relationships.
Trust is the new glue; and HBS has lost some ground in the last 30 years in teaching it.

Where’s a good place to start? You could do worse than to bring back Joe.

Update: Thanks to Martin Calle at Advertising Age  for choosing this article for the Carnival of Consumer Marketing.


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12 Comments

Mark said

Trust is the key that opens up the door of all relationships and Charlie gets it right when he says to "bring back Joe."  Why is it that companies seem to care more about benchmarking than looking at their own shop to assess the talent within and how people relate to one another to execute the task at hand, to achieve the goal.  It's not an original thought to look to sports for a metaphor here, but do you think the current Detroit Tigers trust one another and do they trust their skipper...seems to me that most would say yes. Thanks Charlie for getting to first base with this new blog...the home runs will come in time !

posted on Monday, October 16, 2006

Barbara said

Congratulations Charlie, this is terrific!!

Thank you for sending this, I look forward to being part of your community. BTW, perhaps  you might want to share "Bring Back Joe" w/ HBS.

posted on Monday, October 16, 2006

Todd M. Warner said

How do you measure soul?  Isn't that really the core of this question?  If we could measure the soulful commitment that people bring to their work, wouldn't our woes be solved?

Although the concept of scientific management has fallen from favor, the principles have not.  I'm frequently aghast at how much people minimize and diminsh the power and significance of relationships to build the connectivity that motivates people, and gets them to create something extra . . . something more.  Thanks for spearheading this, Charlie, and thanks for getting us to think in this direction.

posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Martin Calle said

http://advertising-age.blogspot.com

Wonderful article and insight. Thought provoking. My thoughts: Initiate curriculum focusing upon the development of "the founder-executive" a new mindset for "managers." Also, If the "best practices" utilized by firms such as GM were "best practices" why isn't the firm advancing?

I'd marry a new legion of founder executives with a new cadre of systems and processes.

For some reason portholes are still potholes to divisions such as Buick. 

posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Robert said

Let's talk a bit more about the "glue".  The "Trust Glue" as you appropriately termed it appears to be lost - beyond education.  The loss permeates most if not all industries. 

Most specifically,  the lack of trust plagues the industry of core management consulting.  Consulting firms are no longer a breeding ground for trust.  The ranks of the top 10 major consulting providers  swell in good times and sharply contract in economic troughs. Why? Corporate greed  and a lack of desire to smooth out cash flow or earnings during both boom and bust economies.  Consultants today view their tenure with these organizations with a short term  time horizon - a year to year lease.  This is a paradox as historically consulting firms emerged to be the "Trusted Advisor" to "C" level and line management. 

How can "Trusted Soldiers" effectively deliver advice to the Fortune 500 when they do not trust the orgaizations they hail from? 

It is time to infuse the "trust glue" back into advanced education.  If this occurs, it is possible that the "glue" may once again trickle back into management philosophy and day to day management decisions within organizations.

posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Charles H. Green said

www.trustedadvisor.com/blog

I think it's interesting that both Martin and Robert are suggesting that the business education system has a role to play in rebuilding trust.  That suggests it isn't just a question for other social institutions—justice, regulatory, industry associations.

Other views?  Thanks to all for a spirited discussion.

posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006

Ian Welsh said

www.agonist.org

You teach trust by modeling being worthy of it.  You get trust by giving it. 

I think back to the teachers who I did the best work for - they were all the ones who thought the best of me, thought I was smart and capable - and I wanted to keep that good opinion from them.  I would never have handed in subpar work to them.

That didn't mean they were symps, or that they gave me praise I didn't deserve.  In fact they had high standards, but on those occasions I failed to meet them I never felt they thought I was worthless - they were disappointed because they /knew/ I could do better and that made me determined to do better.

I don't feel bad when I let someone down who doesn't trust me - who doesn't respect me.  Whatever... I've lost nothing.  I feel bad when I let down  someone who thinks the world of me.

Trust is like most things - you get what you give.

posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006

Allison said

Trust isn't just loss to automation. Trust is lost by all levels of micromanagement. It's that in workplaces and B schools, micromanaging is being heralded as a move for the betterment of the bottom line. Benchmarking and quantitative metrics are so often nit picking that they are just new ways to micromanage people. It's not clear that managers and B school grads even know why trust matters. if you never worked in an environment that had it, would you know what you are missing?

posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006

Barbara Garabedian said

This is really interesting, a couple of thoughts jumped to mind while reading.

Anyone else think it's rather curious (and ironic) that many of us today that lament the lack of trust in most areas of our lives, let alone the business arena, are the product of the "don't trust anyone over the age of 35 generation". Wonder if there's a correlation there???

It's a shame how the term Trust has been maligned. I think that this issue needs to be attacked from every angle — from as many different social institutions as possible. How do we expect grads or any of the workforce to understand & demonstrate "trust "within the business environment when many have come from or work in environments that espouse " screw them before they screw you". Little by little, most of the sacred cows that we believed in or "trusted" are being exposed as frauds. The newspapers have a new religious scandal to report every week; high profile couples make the headlines over their marital escapades & infidelities; many of our politicians are being defrocked & sent to jail, hell - look at how many CEOs that were the darlings of Wall St have been sent to jail, I've stopped counting the number of teachers, coaches, scout leaders that have been arrested and imprisoned for molesting the children they were charged to supervise; look at the # of EEs that put their faith in their employer for their retirement and how many of those plans are now bankrupt and defunct. The list goes on & on. The term, "trust" means nothing in today's lexicon. Corporations and consulting firms throw around the term trusted advisor the same way they say, "EEs are our most valuable asset". It makes the hair on the back of our necks stand.

Explaining the rationale and then the how to develop trust-based relationships (within any arena or any aspect of our daily lives) shouldn't be that difficult a concept to convey. I hate to be so simplistic but perhaps if we just break it down to the core instead of providing all of the different components, it might be more effective. It's difficult to teach the Butterfly stroke to a person who's never even seen water, right? Perhaps we should start by introducing a simplistic yet key concept, ie, you'll sink and drown without some learned techniques, try to walk on water & see what happens.  Ok, learn to float. What if we just tried to set a simple standard : everyone is expected to do exactly what they say that they say they will do (even if it is akin to salmon swimming up stream). Maybe that would help brighten the tarnished Trust image, bit by bit.

posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006

G said

http://howtomakeamilliondollars.blogspot.com

This article is featured in this month's Carnival of Future Millionaires.  Thank you.

posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006

Allison said

Actually, Barbara, it's clear what the correlation is to the Boomers: yet again, the boomers undermined social institutions, and they were proud of it, regardless of consequences.

Those of us younger than Boomers don't lack trust because we've been screwed by the Man. Nope, we've been screwed by the Boomers who keep telling us those vaunted institutions haven't lived up to mythical Camelot standards.

Trust is not incompatible with turning a profit every quarter; it is not incompatible with "at will" employment. It is not incompatible with reality.  But it sure would have been better for trust if the Boomers hadn't decided to undermine institutions for kicks.

posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006

Michael Fabiano said

The MBA faculty issue you bring up is a constant issue I expect in most business schools. However, I am extremely impressed with what Columbia University has done with the business school faculty.   There are a number of professors that have a combination of real world experience combined with an academic background.  Further, as a current student in the EMBA program, I am bombarded with case studies that discuss the integration necessary on multiple levels for companies to be successful.  I think the professors make the difference.  Columbia has taken the time and effort to enhance the case studies and the learning experience with custom material that does in fact address many of the concerns stated.  In essence, this is a human capital issue for business schools.  It's easy to find teachers with PhD’s to go over a case study.  It's hard to find real educators, with the right combination of real world experience, academic knowledge and passion to teach creatively.  Columbia's business school is doing this in a superb fashion.

posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006



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